Post by someone on Jun 12, 2014 14:55:51 GMT -5
Do you discuuss with Madonna fans on youtube, facebook or anywhere in the internet or real life? I've had a few disscusions lately.
Here are posts from one of them:
xxxTIN0xxx Well, people say that Kylie copies Madonna as well. For example Kylie Minogue received negative comments that her Rhythm of Love Tour (1991) was too similar visually to Madonna's Blond Ambition Tour (1990) for which the critics labelled her a Madonna wannabe. She also wore Madonna's iconic cone bra and whatnot. In conclusion this is totally irrelevant, plus they both respect each other. Kylie even claimed more than a couple of times that Madonna is her inspiration, that she's a massive fan.
Madge Copycat Kylie was the first one who wore madonna's ',,"iconic",,' bra in 'turn it into love' video from 1988.
xxxTIN0xxx
Kylie wasn't the first. Madonna wore the cone bra in "Open Your Heart" (1986).
Madge Copycat
What? This bra is totally different. Different color, different pattern. It has nothing to do with Kylie,s bra. Plus madonna didn't invent cone shape of bras. They existed long before in the 50's or earlier.
xxxTIN0xxx
It's different because it is a bustier but it has Madonna-esque pointy bra though. What she wore in Who's That Girl Tour and Blond Ambition Tour (no to mention the huge one in Vogue) was very similar to that and all these costumes were designed by Gaultier. Anyway nobody said she invented pointy cone bras, neither Madonna nor Kylie Minogue created them. They were invented by fashion designers several years before. Madonna just made that bra one of her trade marks and distinctive looks.
Madge Copycat
Are you trying to convice me that Kylie copied madonna because madonna wore a lot of bras before, even when she didn't create this shape? I guess you've never seen that look in turn it into love because it is not pointy and has nothing in common with look from OYH which is Marylin Monroe rip off with black wig, not mentioning the one from vogue which not even a corset.
xxxTIN0xxx
Are you trying to convince me that Madonna copied Kylie Minogue cause Kylie wore a bra in her video "Turn It into Love" even when she didn't create it? Neither of the two created those bras and neither of the two created Aphrodite and Cleopatra if you know what I mean. As I've already said, Madonna wore her first pointy/cone bra in 1986 and it became one of her most iconic looks. She repeated that look several times in her career. Kylie received criticism for copying Madonna's Blond Ambition Tour and if it weren't enough Kylie Minogue herself mentions Madonna as of one her biggest influences, she said that she couldn't be immune from Madonna's influence and inspiration. I guess that you disagree with your own idol. Open Your Heart has nothing to do with Marilyn Monroe by the way but you're clearly biased and you won't ever be objective. It's wasted time.
xxxTIN0xxx
Again? If Kylie Minogue paid tribute to Madonna, Marilyn Monroe and other artists more than a couple of times then Madonna had the right to do the same thing. This video proves that Madonna was Cleopatra and Kylie was Aphrodite, two different figures. Anyway, I told you that discussing with you is wasted time since you're biased, I won't spend my time to make you understand the truth in a endless conversation.
Madge Copycat
You are out of arguments that Madonna didn't copy Kylie's outfit so now you claim she has a right to do it.Of course Madonna has the right to copy Marylin, Kylie, Marlene, Raffaella Carra and dozens of other people but it shows how original and creative she really is. However she has no right to steal music, lyrics and other things for taking which, without crediting she was successfully sued many times. You try to find any difference in a halftime show and Kylie's concert which have so many similarities that can easily be called a copy, while saying that Kylie copies Madonna for wearing totally different bras. We all know who is really biased here. It is a waste of time to talk to someone whose eyes are completely closed for the truth even with exposing the proves.
xxxTIN0xxx
You didn't understand my point, I never said Madonna had the right to copy Kylie Minogue. If Kylie had the right to pay tribute to Marilyn Monroe, Madonna and other people then Madonna had the right to pay tribute to Marilyn Monroe, Marlene Dietrich and more. I'm against double standards. If Madonna copied other artists, then Kylie did it too OR If Kylie paid tribute, then Madonna did it too. You can't say one has copied, the other paid homage.Can you get it now? Of course not, because you're biased and you clearly loath Madonna, that's why you're the only one who sees similarities between Cleopatra and Aphrodite. You just showed bias and double standards, not proves at all. Let's put a period.
Madge Copycat
If you were against double standards you wouldn't have said that Kylie copied Madonna by wearing bras which are completely different. Pitbull always wears suit. Does it mean that every male singer who'll wear suit now is copying him beacuse " it became one of his most iconic looks. He repeated that look several times in his career"? I have NEVER said that Kylie paid tribute and Madonna copied someone for doing the same thing. I didn't even say Kylie paid homage to anyone. Hmmm, so you are also a liar. And I don't see similarities between Cleopattra and Aphrodite. I see similarities between Kylie's concert and Mandonna's reductive halftime show. I wrote you proves that Kylie was the first who wore "Madonna's 'iconic' bra" also that Marylin Monroe and Marlene Dietrich were copied in OYH video. Next lie. But I guess you still didn't watch 'turn it into love' nor this one video nor ever saw Marylin's look in short black-haired wig and you have no idea what I was writting about.
xxxTIN0xxx
I never said Kylie Minogue copied Madonna's iconic bra, I wrote that Kylie WORE Madonna's iconic bra and she actually did it (not the other way around). Kylie Minogue herself says she's inspired by Madonna and she even sang Madonna's self-written lyrics from Vogue in one of her performances. That explains who's the inspiration and who's inspired. Also I wrote the music critics (*Kylie received negative comments etc etc) claimed Kylie Minogue copied Madonna's Blond Ambition Tour. I won't read your comments since you don't have anything real and concrete to say. I suggest you to read again my comments and learn some facts. There's no need to expose your lies by repeating the same thing over and over again hence this conversation is OVER.
xxxTIN0xxx
You have mental issues, you're a stalker LOL.
Here are posts from one of them:
xxxTIN0xxx Well, people say that Kylie copies Madonna as well. For example Kylie Minogue received negative comments that her Rhythm of Love Tour (1991) was too similar visually to Madonna's Blond Ambition Tour (1990) for which the critics labelled her a Madonna wannabe. She also wore Madonna's iconic cone bra and whatnot. In conclusion this is totally irrelevant, plus they both respect each other. Kylie even claimed more than a couple of times that Madonna is her inspiration, that she's a massive fan.
Madge Copycat Kylie was the first one who wore madonna's ',,"iconic",,' bra in 'turn it into love' video from 1988.
xxxTIN0xxx
Kylie wasn't the first. Madonna wore the cone bra in "Open Your Heart" (1986).
Madge Copycat
What? This bra is totally different. Different color, different pattern. It has nothing to do with Kylie,s bra. Plus madonna didn't invent cone shape of bras. They existed long before in the 50's or earlier.
xxxTIN0xxx
It's different because it is a bustier but it has Madonna-esque pointy bra though. What she wore in Who's That Girl Tour and Blond Ambition Tour (no to mention the huge one in Vogue) was very similar to that and all these costumes were designed by Gaultier. Anyway nobody said she invented pointy cone bras, neither Madonna nor Kylie Minogue created them. They were invented by fashion designers several years before. Madonna just made that bra one of her trade marks and distinctive looks.
Madge Copycat
Are you trying to convice me that Kylie copied madonna because madonna wore a lot of bras before, even when she didn't create this shape? I guess you've never seen that look in turn it into love because it is not pointy and has nothing in common with look from OYH which is Marylin Monroe rip off with black wig, not mentioning the one from vogue which not even a corset.
xxxTIN0xxx
Are you trying to convince me that Madonna copied Kylie Minogue cause Kylie wore a bra in her video "Turn It into Love" even when she didn't create it? Neither of the two created those bras and neither of the two created Aphrodite and Cleopatra if you know what I mean. As I've already said, Madonna wore her first pointy/cone bra in 1986 and it became one of her most iconic looks. She repeated that look several times in her career. Kylie received criticism for copying Madonna's Blond Ambition Tour and if it weren't enough Kylie Minogue herself mentions Madonna as of one her biggest influences, she said that she couldn't be immune from Madonna's influence and inspiration. I guess that you disagree with your own idol. Open Your Heart has nothing to do with Marilyn Monroe by the way but you're clearly biased and you won't ever be objective. It's wasted time.
xxxTIN0xxx
Again? If Kylie Minogue paid tribute to Madonna, Marilyn Monroe and other artists more than a couple of times then Madonna had the right to do the same thing. This video proves that Madonna was Cleopatra and Kylie was Aphrodite, two different figures. Anyway, I told you that discussing with you is wasted time since you're biased, I won't spend my time to make you understand the truth in a endless conversation.
Madge Copycat
You are out of arguments that Madonna didn't copy Kylie's outfit so now you claim she has a right to do it.Of course Madonna has the right to copy Marylin, Kylie, Marlene, Raffaella Carra and dozens of other people but it shows how original and creative she really is. However she has no right to steal music, lyrics and other things for taking which, without crediting she was successfully sued many times. You try to find any difference in a halftime show and Kylie's concert which have so many similarities that can easily be called a copy, while saying that Kylie copies Madonna for wearing totally different bras. We all know who is really biased here. It is a waste of time to talk to someone whose eyes are completely closed for the truth even with exposing the proves.
xxxTIN0xxx
You didn't understand my point, I never said Madonna had the right to copy Kylie Minogue. If Kylie had the right to pay tribute to Marilyn Monroe, Madonna and other people then Madonna had the right to pay tribute to Marilyn Monroe, Marlene Dietrich and more. I'm against double standards. If Madonna copied other artists, then Kylie did it too OR If Kylie paid tribute, then Madonna did it too. You can't say one has copied, the other paid homage.Can you get it now? Of course not, because you're biased and you clearly loath Madonna, that's why you're the only one who sees similarities between Cleopatra and Aphrodite. You just showed bias and double standards, not proves at all. Let's put a period.
Madge Copycat
If you were against double standards you wouldn't have said that Kylie copied Madonna by wearing bras which are completely different. Pitbull always wears suit. Does it mean that every male singer who'll wear suit now is copying him beacuse " it became one of his most iconic looks. He repeated that look several times in his career"? I have NEVER said that Kylie paid tribute and Madonna copied someone for doing the same thing. I didn't even say Kylie paid homage to anyone. Hmmm, so you are also a liar. And I don't see similarities between Cleopattra and Aphrodite. I see similarities between Kylie's concert and Mandonna's reductive halftime show. I wrote you proves that Kylie was the first who wore "Madonna's 'iconic' bra" also that Marylin Monroe and Marlene Dietrich were copied in OYH video. Next lie. But I guess you still didn't watch 'turn it into love' nor this one video nor ever saw Marylin's look in short black-haired wig and you have no idea what I was writting about.
xxxTIN0xxx
I never said Kylie Minogue copied Madonna's iconic bra, I wrote that Kylie WORE Madonna's iconic bra and she actually did it (not the other way around). Kylie Minogue herself says she's inspired by Madonna and she even sang Madonna's self-written lyrics from Vogue in one of her performances. That explains who's the inspiration and who's inspired. Also I wrote the music critics (*Kylie received negative comments etc etc) claimed Kylie Minogue copied Madonna's Blond Ambition Tour. I won't read your comments since you don't have anything real and concrete to say. I suggest you to read again my comments and learn some facts. There's no need to expose your lies by repeating the same thing over and over again hence this conversation is OVER.
xxxTIN0xxx
You have mental issues, you're a stalker LOL.
